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Huxley on Propaganda by Skargill Huxley on Propaganda by Skargill
Another quote, this time about propaganda. Image is a UKIP poster, somehow it seemed fitting.
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Skargill Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
"and what they have said is true. "

No it isn't, first the combined populations of Romania and Bulgaria is less then 29 million, that's a very easy thing to look up and when pressed they never showed any evidence for there claims. When you say something you know not to be true or continue to say something when it has been pointed out to be false you are lying.

Furthermore since the obstacles to Romania and Bulgaria where lifted the number of immigrants from those nations to the UK has actually fallen.

"A LONG, BORING, RAMBLING JOURNAL THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE TOO MUCH THINKING ON MY PART"

Well you were mostly right except that this is not a journal its a comment. Journals belong on your own page otherwise its just pointless spam. If you can't be bothered to actually comment then I'll just remove it.
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mynameisWhite Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
(it says on google that back in 2012 Romania had a population of 21.33m and Bulgaria had a population of 7.305m, however big it is now.. it doesn't seem that far from accurate anyway...)
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Skargill Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
" it doesn't seem that far from accurate anyway...)"

So you really believe that the entire populations of two nations including there numerous Nationalist movements would move to Britain as the poster claimed?
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mynameisWhite Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
no i don't, but it does not say they would, it says they are allowed to. not all humans are desirable,
i don't know if you bothered to read my long journal entry - but that gives you some basic examples of how some people are good and some not so good - therefore i believe immigration should be managed better, so that those we DO let in are good people that we need and that will lift us higher.
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Skargill Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
"no i don't, but it does not say they would, it says they are allowed to."

There are two things you can allow, a right or an immediate act.
Romanians and Bulgarians already had the right to enter the UK, so the only thing thing that could be allowed at the time were requests for entry. So yes the poster is saying 29 million alleged Romanians and Bulgarians would be entering the UK. That was disproved months ago and not just because its impossible.

"not all humans are desirable, "

Your living proof of that I guess.

"i don't know if you bothered to read my long journal entry"

Of course I didn't, if I wanted to read anything by you I'd go to your page were journals are supposed to go.

" so that those we DO let in are good people that we need and that will lift us higher."

So your objection is that a quotation about dehumanising is unfair because you don't believe the targets are worthy enough humans. Well in that case your wrong its clear that the quotation is even more appropriate then I originally thought.
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mynameisWhite Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
Why are you putting words into my mouth that are not true?
If you can't be bothered to even read that message then you won't know what or how I think will you.
You really are a very rude human being attacking me personally like that. You are 24, and while I know people here are generally maturing later these days, you do need to grow up a bit.
Also, you know very well what the poster says and means. It does not say they would enter the UK, it clearly says they would be allowed to. There is a big difference between saying those two things.
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Skargill Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
"Why are you putting words into my mouth that are not true?"

I'm not, I'm pointing out the quite obvious holes in your comments. That's what debates are like. If you don't like it then do something else.

"then you won't know what or how I think will you."

Again, if I cared what you thought I would go to your own page and your own works. I don't so I haven't. journals go on your Deviant page for that reason.

"You really are a very rude human being attacking me personally like that."

You must have very poor manners if you think its ok to complain about something you didn't bother to read first. Or not see how arrogant it is to dump a Journal in someone else's space to try and make them read it.

"You are 24, and while I know people here are generally maturing later these days, you do need to grow up a bit."

Its also considered hypocritical to moan about someone else insulting you and then finish with an insulting in kind.

"Also, you know very well what the poster says and means."

Indeed I do, you are the one insisting otherwise based on nothing.

" It does not say they would enter the UK, it clearly says they would be allowed to."

Except as I've already pointed out to you, they already were allowed to enter so why does the poster refer to "next year"?

" There is a big difference between saying those two things."

Indeed there is, so I don't know why you insist on saying such an obvious falsehood.
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mynameisWhite Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
oh I didn't even read that lol.. maybe its an old poster? 
see I am not being scared by big numbers, because my thoughts on immigration are based on what I have pasted above,
and I had them before I had even heard of UKIP!
Oh yes, i imagine with the tension, and everything else (like some of those crazy tv ads, and talk of reforms) that it would have done.
But your quote about it'll make us forget they are human not fair, because the issue is bigger than the individual.
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Skargill Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
"oh I didn't even read that lol"

So you commented registering a disagreement when you didn't even know what it was you were disagreeing with. Your not very brig are you.


".. maybe its an old poster? "

???No it isn't, it was there major campaign tactic in the run up to the elections, you support a party but don't know anything about what it's actually doing, hey.

"and I had them before I had even heard of UKIP!"

Yeah UKIP has a proven track record of attracting nutters.

"But your quote about it'll make us forget they are human not fair, because the issue is bigger than the individual."

So my quote is unfair because its accurate hey?
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